What do you feed your airgun?
Found in a Crosman 1377
by Tom Gaylord
This report came from a reader, Darry Hartsock, who referred me to the man who actually wrote the report, did the work and took the picture.
Mark Orn is the Manager and Buyer of the Hunting and Fishing Department at Canfield's Sporting Good in Omaha, Nebraska. This is his story.
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This picture shows you can try to use a Swiss Army knife to clear the barrel of a Crosman pistol.
A customer purchased this pistol from us over a year ago. Brought it back saying that it wasn’t shooting and wanted another one. I asked if it was loaded he said he didn’t know.
I took the gun back to our pellet trap and tried to put a cleaning rod down the barrel. It only went down about two inches before stopping. Having pushed multiple pellets (16 in .22 caliber is my record) from airguns before, I told the customer that there was a pellet stuck half way down the barrel and that I could push it out for him. That was when he told me that he had let his 6-year-old cousin play with the gun while he and his friends cleaned other guns.
I told him how irresponsible it was to let kids “play with guns” and that airguns are guns. Every year people are hurt or killed by “just a BB gun”.
After 25 years selling them I have seen nails, coat hangers and wood dowels, but this was a first. I found a toothpick, ink pen, tweezers and 5 .177 pellets.
A lot of Swiss Army Knife went in after those five stuck pellets.
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Thanks for that report, Mark. You top anything I've ever seen in a barrel, though I have found several finishing nails and about five pellets dropped down the transfer port of a Hakim air rifle.
posted by Tom Gaylord @ 7:16 AM
17 comments
17 Comments:
Better they get stuck inside than fly out at another 6 yearolds head.
Man, when will people learn.
Tom,
I wanted to ask you a question about accuracy, or in my case the lack thereof.
I am shooting an HW100 since Jan. 07 and right from the start it was a wonderfully accurate rifle shooting 16gr JSB right at 25ft/lbs.
After about a month it bagan to spray the JSB's, some up, some down, some right, some left. All of them 3-5" off the POI. I swithched to Kodiaks and the rilfe calmed down and shots grouped well.
Well fast forward to the last three weeks and once again I am getting bad groups at 60yrds, my normal distance, with Kodiaks.
I ran 50 rounds from one fill oaver the chrony and all 10 shot strings were within 17fps.
I am really confused. Can you suggest any solutions or do you have any ideas?
Thanks,
Confused
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It's pretty obvious that you need to clean the barrel of your rifle. What you describe is typical of a leaded barrel. Leading comes when you shoot pellets too fast, or when you shoot Crosman pellets above 900 f.p.s.
Use JB Non-Embedding Bore Cleaning Compound on a brass brush. Push a solid cleaning rod through the bore 20 times in each direction. It's best to clean from the breech first6, but with the HW 100 you'll have to go in through the muzzle.
After you finish with the bore paste, remove all traces wiuth clean dry patches. Your gun will shoot like new.
After that, keep your muzzle velocity below 900 f.p.s. and oil your pellets with FP-10.
Regards,
Tom
Tom,
I'm planning on getting back into air gunning after a long absence. My last air gun was a Daisy 25 when I was a teenager. It was a gift from Dad, but I wanted a Spittin' Image like my buddies had. I didn't appreciate Dad's gift. Wish I still had it. Anyway, I was wondering if you would recommend a particular type of air gun over another for someone like me who hasn't shot any kind of air gun for 40 years. I'm nor asking for a brand or model recommendation, basically pump or springer. I live in a rural area of northwest Florida, and would like to do some plinking and general target shooting. Of course, a man who tunes springers says I should get a springer. A man affiliated with an online seller of air guns says no, a pump model would be easier to handle. Elsewhere I read that a new shooter should just get a lower power (under 1000fps these days) either springer or pump. I haven't mentioned CO2 due to the added cost and variance in power. Do you have a suggestion for someone like me who for all prctical purposes is a new shooter?
Regards,
Clarke
Clarke,
I recommend you get a Beeman R7 or an IZH 61. Both are spring rifles. I love multi-pumps, but they do take time to pump, while the spring gun is ready right away.
Stay away from 1000 f.p.s. guns if you want accuracy. Start with either one of these rifles and I think you will like the experience.
Tom
Tom,
I have some questions about what appears to be a Sheridan model C with the thumb safety. I say "appears to be" because I see no manufacturer name or model designation on it. Do you know if Sheridan made any rifles that did not have their name on them? Were the barrels on the model C painted or were they black nickel like the Benjamins? This one is painted, so maybe if the paint is not original, might it be too thick, covering up Sheridan's name?
I have questions regarding open sights not pertaining strickly to older Sheridans, so I'll make another post. Thanks.
Clarke
Tom,
This question is about using older open sights having a "V" rear sight.
It would seem that most, if not all, modern rifles have open sights with the rear sight being a rectangular notch. You're told to align the top of the front sight post vertically with the top of the top of the rear sight, having the front post centered horizontally within the rectangular notch.
However, older rifles have a "V" rear sight. Information I have found online says it doesn't matter what shape the rear sight's notch is, you always vertically align the rifle's front post with the top of the rear sight. If that is the case, what is the purpose of the "V"? Also, when I do that, my vintage Sheridan shoots a couple of inches high at 10 yards. What is the proper way to use the open sights on older rifles having a "V" rear sight? Guys at work say just do whatever works, but I want to know what is the correct intended procedure. Thanks in advance.
Clarke
Tom,
I guess I should have added that Dad always told me that the POI was at the bottom of the "V". Of course, his only rifle training was in basic training during WW2. He didn't even own a rifle while I was growing up. Thanks again.
Clarke
Tom
can you tell me if you have any pictures of a custom airgun stock that houses a paintball tank in it
thanks
Tom,
I really appreciate your work on the "other" Airgun blog. I'm not sure if you still keep up with the All About Airguns blog, but I wanted to keep this off the "other" blog (for fear of opening a can of worms).
Let me say up front that I have nothing against Bob Werner (Charlie da Tuna). I've had conversations with him myself. I was wondering if you're aware of the controversy surrounding his GRT-III trigger. There's a person on one of the many airgun forums who says he designed the trigger from which Bob Werner came up with the GRT-III. As I understand him, he says he originally had an agreement with Bob to manufacture his trigger. He says Bob stole his design and slightly modified it, calling it the GRT-III. Heck, on the particular forum I'm referring to, if you even mention the name Bob Werner or Charlie da Tuna, your post are deleted by the moderator. I see why you've kept your blogs neutral. A blog or forum is not the place to settle differences between former business partners.
Clarke,
Good idea, using this place.
This is the first I've heard anything bad about Charlie. He doesn't want to work with Pyramyd Air, so I'll review his trigger but not go any deeper with him, I think.
I'm expecting to meet him at Roanoke on Friday.
I really hate it when thigs like this happen, because you never know who it telling the truth. I can't be a marshall, so I'll just play dumb and see where it takes me. I'm well-equiped for that anyhow.
Thanks for the heads up.
Tom
Tom,
Do you know how much foot-pounds does an HW57 .177 produce? In weihrauchs' site it just gives a general 250m/s, the same as HW50S.
p.s. I was trying all day to send this to pyramid air.
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mixalix,
I haven't tested an HW 57 yet, but I would believe their website.
Are you asking whether there is a different U.S. version produced? If so, Pyramyd Air would know about it.
They list the velocity of a .177 at 820 f.p.s., which us right where the HW 50S is, so I have to believe that's what it is.
Tom
Tom,
But what is the weight of the .177 pellet? To find out the energy this gun produces dont I have to know also the weight of the pellet?
mixalis,
They always choose a light pellet to chronograph, so figure a 7-grain Hobby.
Tom
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